Thought I might keep you guys updated on my latest hostel experiences in Argentina:
You feel like a complete outcast, since they fully ignore all others and act like the place is theirs (this is something I also found at earlier occasions; I sincerely hope that it's just me having a bad connection with them).
I don't think it's you.
I don't think it's to do with nationality either.
Everywhere i've been, as soon as a nationality is in huge majority, peoples start behaving like this.
The thing is, I've been to other places, where other nationalities (most notably Germans, Australians, British) were outnumbering the others 10 to 1, and I never felt shut out... would be interesting to hear other travellers' opinions on this one.
[ Edited at Aug 24, 2006 5:56 AM by bentivogli ]
Hostel best avoided in my opinion... the HI Santiago. It was cleanish and quite central but completely characterless and clinical. Like staying in a hospital ward!
The thing is, I've been to other places, where other nationalities (most notably Germans, Australians, British) were outnumbering the others 10 to 1, and I never felt shut out... would be interesting to hear other travellers' opinions on this one.
Ive never felt shut out with regards the Israelis I came across - far from it, they were incredibly friendly and tried to persuade me to stay out partying with them till all hours...
Unfortunately i must say that i have the same experience coming across israelis. They think they know everything, they act like they own the world and complain about everything whole day long.
Quite tyring...
I have to disagree with the Peter Pan hostel in Iguazu:
"Peter Pan hostel in Puerto Iguazu. Decent, though a bit on the expensive side. Lousy breakfast. The wiring in the showers is dangerous."
I stayed there last August and it was my favourite hostel that we had all through the month of travelling, it was lovely, and i so want to go there again. it may have helped that there were 10 of us travelling and therefore we got two rooms that were connected between us and a private bathroom, but i still loved it so so so much!
If u want sumwhere not to stay, the Gymnasium Municipal in Trelew. That was awful!
Cya
Rhian
You feel like a complete outcast, since they fully ignore all others and act like the place is theirs (this is something I also found at earlier occasions; I sincerely hope that it's just me having a bad connection with them).
I don't think it's you.
I don't think it's to do with nationality either.
Everywhere i've been, as soon as a nationality is in huge majority, peoples start behaving like this.
LOL
Very true - I experienced the exact same shunning - but my "shunners" were English (in a couple of hostels in B.A.), and Germans (in Peru) -
- whenever you find yourself amongst a group of people that are all from the same country and are planning on having FunFunFun!, the chances are you'll be an outcast:
-I met this one French-Canadian guy who was soooooo furious and hateful towards British - he told that for months, wherever he went, there were always some english guys in his dorm, always completely ignoring him...
As for the Israelis - I did not have any negative experience - but I think I know what you'te talking about, and I think I know why it's so -
On one occasion I had a nice, long talk with a couple of young guys from Israel I met at the Iguacu - they were nice & interesting to talk to (even slightly sardonic towards their backpacking compatriots in S.A.) -
- I actually asked them why there are so many young Israelis backpacking through South America. They explained that, for some decades now, it is a custom in Israel to go on this "grand tour" (generaly in S.A, but also in India) after serving your compulsory 2-3 years military sevice.
And not just any military sevice.
I guess that's why most of them (at least the ones I've met, especially the girls) seem extremely self-confident and self-reliant (in some cases borderline arrogant and condescending towards the others), -
I guess being practically a teenager and already an ex-military, after serving under arms for a couple of years, in a perpetual war zone, being in numerous life-threatening situations, and being trained to handle them, will do that to you.
They're very, very hard-boiled.
I admired that, but at the same time I was feeling sorry for them.
They were practically kids.
[ Edited at Nov 7, 2006 6:38 PM ]
Unfortunately i must say that i have the same experience coming across israelis. They think they know everything, they act like they own the world and complain about everything whole day long.
Quite tyring...
I have some mixed experiences. I've met israeli's just by themselves or with two people and they were ok. Sometimes also bigger groups were ok, just talking, asking questions, behaving normally.
But most really big groups, towards 10 or more are really ignorant, noisy...But I experience the same with italians by the way, not to speak about Russians!
That's probably the top 3 of ignorant travellers in the world, Israeli's actually not being very ignorant compared to the other two really.
I have to agree with Peter Pan as a bad hostel. The facilities are OK, however the service and hospitality of the staf is really bad. English is only spoken and understood when it suits them, if you succeeded to get and keep their attention.
They closed the pool during high-season in summer. We wanted to have a relaxed day at the pool, so therefore we wanted to go the another hostel. There was no way that we could get our money back. So one advice, if still going to stay here, don't pay the whole stay in advance.
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